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Live fire Mal's pistol?

Postby mandio222 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:26 am

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Re: Live fire Mal's pistol?

Postby msglaigaie » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:44 am

Last comment was three weeks ago. I, too, have been working on a live fire design for this prop.
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Re: Live fire Mal's pistol?

Postby pennausamike » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:25 pm

This looks very interesting and well made, but I can't imagine that it won't blow apart when fired.
At this point, the builder has nicely machined panels,
but I don't see any thought given to the fastening system needed to hold it together.
I think someone on here once mentioned building a Mal pistol in .22 cal, and I think that might be doable.
(And even then, I think it would need a venting system.)

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Re: Live fire Mal's pistol?

Postby mandio222 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 10:25 pm

Dont know why people always say its not doable or that it will blow up, blade runner blasters work and ar 44 caliber, if you do it right theres plenty of space between the panels for gases to escape. Just my opinion.
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Re: Live fire Mal's pistol?

Postby pennausamike » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:58 am

mandio222 wrote:Dont know why people always say its not doable or that it will blow up,
blade runner blasters work and ar 44 caliber,
if you do it right theres plenty of space between the panels for gases to escape.
Just my opinion.


Bladerunner blasters are not fully shrouded like the Mal pistol.
If you watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cOeqD80gzY
watch for the gasses escaping from the cylinder/ barrel gap.
I can only say that I wouldn't feel safe with a live fire Mal pistol that wasn't modified to relieve the 17,000 psi chamber pressure of the .38 Special round.

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Re: Live fire Mal's pistol?

Postby msglaigaie » Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:41 pm

I am a "gun guy". Always have been. I looked at the original design and saw several flaws. The plates blowing off was not that much of a problem. Hollywood prop guys tend to use what is on the shelf for economics. I started from the finished design and worked back.

the base firearm is a bad choice. Say what you want, it will not work on a weapon of self defense calibre. I started with an 1895 Nagant, seven shot 7.62x38R cal pistol. Bam.....the gas seal problem is gone and cosmetic changes will give you a SAFE working firearm. A little cutting, a little brazing, move a spring, and you can have a REAL working Mal gun.

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